Favors Top · Overall estimate
Turtle
Bottom player is on knees and elbows or hands with the back facing the top player.
Where does this position usually go next?
- Roadmap
- Volume 1
- Roles
- Top + Bottom
- Formats
- Gi and No-Gi
Understand the position
Understand the position
Top
Is behind or beside Bottom, looking to take the back or break them down flat.
Bottom
Is on hands and knees protecting the neck, trying to recover guard or stand up.
Quick Read
Understand this position in 10 seconds.
Favors Top
53%
Top establishes the stronger next position or finishes the exchange.
Favors Bottom
47%
Bottom establishes the stronger next position or finishes the exchange.
Largest group: Favors Top (53%). Most common individual transition: Top takes the back (32%).
What does "favors" mean?
It is not a player's chance of winning the match. It describes which player benefits from the estimated next outcome of this position.
The distribution
Overall Outcome
Outcome distribution for Turtle
Favors Top 53%
Favors Bottom 47%
One-step map
Where It Goes Next
- From Turtle: Top takes the back, 32 percent overall, Favors Top.
- From Turtle: Top flattens to side / mount, 11 percent overall, Favors Top.
- From Turtle: Top submits from front headlock / choke, 10 percent overall, Favors Top.
- From Turtle: Bottom recovers guard, 20 percent overall, Favors Bottom.
- From Turtle: Bottom stands / resets, 15 percent overall, Favors Bottom.
- From Turtle: Bottom reverses to top, 12 percent overall, Favors Bottom.
These are possible next events, not guaranteed paths to another named position. Open a transition below for a plain-language explanation.
Every outcome
Transition Breakdown
Favors Top
Favors Top · Overall estimate
Favors Top · Overall estimate
Favors Bottom
Favors Bottom · Overall estimate
Favors Bottom · Overall estimate
Favors Bottom · Overall estimate
Compare the formats
Gi vs No-Gi
Gi
Grips help the top player flatten the turtle and control the pace before taking the back.
No-Gi
The position is more explosive: back takes and stand-ups both happen more often.
In practice
What This Means on the Mat
For Top
The back is the prize. Break the base first, then attack before the bottom player moves.
For Bottom
Do not sit still. Guard recovery, standing up, or reversing should happen immediately.
Methodology
How to Read These Numbers
These percentages are coaching estimates informed by published research, not measured probabilities from a single dataset.
EstimatedThe Simplex Motus Position Transition Roadmap, Volume 1 supplies the baseline, Gi, and No-Gi values. The overall split groups the baseline outcomes by which role they favor. Published studies provide context for the estimates, not direct measurements of these exact exit percentages.
Gi means grappling with a uniform jacket and pants; No-Gi means grappling without that uniform. “Overall” is the roadmap's baseline estimate, not an average calculated from the two formats.
Limitations
The cited studies provide context, but do not report these exact position-exit rates. Without raw counts or a reproducible calculation for the displayed percentages, these estimates should not be treated as measured frequencies or predictions for a particular match.
Research trail
Evidence & Sources
The original roadmap, Volume 1 (PDF) provides the displayed baseline, Gi, and No-Gi values and assigns the references below to Turtle. Public studies do not track every specific position exit shown here. Where direct measurements are unavailable, the roadmap uses evidence-constrained coaching estimates. No sample size, raw counts, or reproducible calculation for these exact percentages is provided in the document. Treat them as a directional training guide, not observed rates or a prediction for a match.
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